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New RaceMax is here!

You've probably heard it by now: we launched the new Exploro RaceMax. If you missed our blog post about what led to its creation, plus links to all the information, check it out here.

Text by Gerard Vroomen, 3T Head of Design - 01 June 2020

The goal

Our goal was quite simply to optimize the aerodynamics of a gravel bike to the same level as a road bike. I don’t like to use the phrase “the world’s fastest gravel bike” because “world’s fastest” is so overused and arbitrary (see the 20 bikes that call themselves the “world’s fastest aero road bike”).

But in gravel, nobody else seriously uses aerodynamics yet. So for once I’ll say it: world’s fastest gravel bike! Now back to business.

While the idea was simple, the execution was very challenging. To lower drag, you need to shield the tires. Which means you need to know exactly how big all these tires are. Hint: It’s not what’s on the label! Hundreds of measurements later, we came up with two new concepts:

  • WAM: Width As Measured
  • RAM: Radius As Measured

By now, we know so much about tires we wake up screaming in the middle of the night. With all these measurements, the engineering of the frame could begin. The result is a frame with:

  • tight-fitting rear wheel cutout (with mud clearance of course)
  • downtube optimized to re-direct the airflow coming off the front wheel and onto the water bottle
  • narrow headtube with a big steerer inside (it’s pretty trick)
  • dozens of small details to eke out every last Watt
  • a list of our favorite tires for grip, aerodynamics, puncture protection & more.

Big tires

With the RaceMax, Speed is Everything. But not Everything is Speed. We know there are customers going for the absolute top speed (usually those who combine paved and unpaved roads or those racing gravel events).

Any questions? We hold a 12-hour
Questions & Answers marathon. See below for details!

There are also those who want bigger tires because they ride on tougher terrain or they just want to avoid walking at all costs. I am in this last group myself. Even for medium-tough routes, I’d rather give up a tiny bit of top speed for tires that get me through everything.

Good news, the RaceMax can accept tires up to 61mm WAM. That’s 15% wider than the 2.1″ maximum considered by many as the holy grail.

The model line

The Exploro RaceMax frame will be used on two series of bikes:

  • Exploro RACE series targeting absolute top speed with 700c wheels and 35-42mm WAM tires, starting at 4199 with Shimano GRX.
  • Exploro MAX series of unstoppable gravel machines with 650b wheels and up to 61mm WAM tires, also starting at 4199 with Shimano GRX

If you’re not sure, check out what tire is best for you.

The Exploro RACE and Exploro MAX will sit alongside the existing Exploro series:

  • Exploro PRO series for the best value in fast gravel riding with its aero frames and tire fit of 30-54mm WAM, including the Exploro PRO Rival at 2999.
  • Exploro TEAM series with an even lighter frame and top spec (including the Exploro TEAM SPEED aimed at the All-roader and Gravel racer at 3799).

More info

Here are some short impressions about riding the RaceMax:


Here is a video where I explain all the details of the frame:


Here René explains the full model line of Exploro PRO/TEAM/RACE/MAX


 

For all the other information about the new Exploro RACE and Exploro MAX, check out the two new product pages:

  • Exploro RACE
  • Exploro MAX
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203 responses to “New RaceMax is here!”

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    B. Wu says:

    08 December 2021

    How many (10mm?) spacers (under the stem) come with the Exploro?

    Reply
    1. Gerard Vroomen says:

      08 December 2021

      Depends a bit on the exact model and size, but always 30-40mm of spacers on the complete bike builds.

      Reply
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    Rob says:

    13 May 2021

    Hello,
    Would there be a preferred or optimal location for Di2 battery placement? I have GRX Di2 components arriving shortly and want to have a plan in place for an expedient build so I can get out and ride this machine.

    Reply
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    RiccardoG says:

    24 March 2021

    Hello Gerard,
    I would like to have your point of view regarding my RaceMax Setup: I currently have a Torno cranck with 40th chainring
    – one 700c wheel with 10-52 sram cassette
    – one 650b wheel always with 10-52 sram cassette

    According to your experience suggestion, every time i change wheelset and brake pads, do I have to change chain as well?
    I’m worried about the possible unbalanced wear of one chain with respect to different (even if the same) cassettes.

    Many thks
    Riccardo

    Reply
    1. Gerard Vroomen says:

      16 April 2021

      No need to change the chain, the cassettes are the same, right? Not sure why you are exchanging the brake pads when you change the wheels either?

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        RiccardoG says:

        25 April 2021

        Hello Gerard!! Yeah…same cassettes….at the moment I’m gonna change the brake pads coz the rotors are different….discs are different from wheelsets.

        I take the opportunity for one more question: have you ever tried 3T discus 45/40 with Pirelli cinturato gravel H 700×40? Is this a good match according to your point of view?

        Many Thks

        Reply
        1. Gerard Vroomen says:

          26 April 2021

          Yes it’s a nice tire. A little lower profile than the M, so great for easier and dry terrain. And fits very well on the 45|40.

          Reply
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    Shaun Welch says:

    16 March 2021

    Just received mine (Max grx 1x build) after a long wait, but the bike came with no grommets installed on the hydro hose at the top of the fork, the lower fork, or the shift Cable that exits at the rear. Emailed 3T, and the response is they don’t have a grommet designed for those ports. A gravel bike with openings for water and dirt to get into the frame? 3200 usd for a frame to not have small details is unacceptable.

    Other than that it’s a beautiful bike, but I don’t feel I should be making my own grommets.

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    Russell Fraser says:

    11 February 2021

    I love the gravel bike reality cause I live outta town and am surrounded by kilometers of gravel roads. Cycling had not been an option for my training for motocross till now. I would love to team up and implement your product into our training protocol. I am in northern British Columbia Canada and work with and coach young up and coming riders .I am looking for any advantage as our seasons are compressed with our northern climates . I look forward discussing future realities

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    A Prad says:

    02 January 2021

    Hi,
    I have two questions I am hoping you can answer:

    1.) I happen to really like running 2x and really like running Continental RaceKings (2.2 x 27.5, or 55-584) on my bike. Any idea of the clearance of these tires with the AXS Wide FD? Alternatively, any thoughts on the clearance of the AXS Wide FD on your frames?

    2.) I want to run two small wires through the top of the seatpost for a battery pack and a tail light. Possible with your seatpost?

    Best,
    A

    Reply
    1. Gerard Vroomen says:

      12 January 2021

      1) Impossible on any performance gravel frame.
      2) Normally not a problem if you put it through a low stress area.

      Reply
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        A Prad says:

        15 January 2021

        Thank you for taking time to reply. Good to hear on the second. Figured that would be the answer on the first question.

        Reply
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    RiccardoG says:

    31 December 2020

    Hi Gerard!! It’s Riccardo…back again after racemax purchase in sand olive colour!! The bike is litterally amazing both on tarmac and gravel/single track. I currently mount fulcrum racing with pirelli cinturato gravel 700×40. I could say that radial residual clearance is around 4/5 mm between rubber and frame…
    – is there a limit for radial clearance to be respected or can I even try to test some millimeter more?
    – If I’ll mount discus 45/32 or 45/40, so wider inner rim, do I have to expect that this tyre may grow radially or diminish?
    For safety reason I put some adhesive tape to avoid scratches. Not a bad idea considering I meet a lot of sticky mud in these days 🙂

    Reply
    1. Gerard Vroomen says:

      12 January 2021

      I think that 6mm is nice for clearance, a little less often woks too (depending a bit where you live) but I wouldn’t go a lot closer. With a wider rim, a narrow tire will shrink radially, a big tire will grow. It’s a bit of a curve, so there is a max radius for any tire, and then when you go with a wider or more narrow rim, the tire becomes smaller radially. The 700x40c on a Discus 45|40 is probably tough.

      Reply
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    Thorstein says:

    15 November 2020

    Hoi Gerard,

    I have been trying to find this information to not bother you but I could not find it. I do have to admit that I did not listen to the entire 24 hours interview you guys did:
    1. I cannot find an owners manual for my Racemax. Specifically I was looking for the clamping torque of direct-mout disc brakes.
    2. I have found many question like: can I run a XXT blade in this configuration and I understand that it is hard to have an answer for all these questions. I am interested in running a 42T or 44T blade on the current 1X GRX build I have. Is this possible? If this is no known, I can probably do the math myself and figure it out form the diameter, if I know the clearance required between the chainring and the frame?
    3. The torque spec printed on the seat clamp bolt is 8Nm the one on the frame is 9Nm. I went with the conservative 8Nm estimate and applied carbon paste and my post and it started to slip today while hitting some washboard gravel. The grippy surface on the post wore off. I did get an excellent training for my standing climb position on the way back in, but was wondering what the intended torque window is and if all hope is lost now that the grippy surface on the seat post has worn off.

    The ride quality and handling of the bike is amazing, the acceleration out of dirt corners and stability down descents were exactly what I was looking for when getting this bike and I hope to race it on the gravel whenever that is allowed again. I am truly impressed.

    Thank yo for your time,
    Thor

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      Thorstein says:

      15 November 2020

      Would it perhaps be an idea (in the long term) to make a two-dimensional chart with an abscissa “chainring radius” and ordinate “chain line”, to settle the crank compatibility once and for all. Different cranksets would be point in this chart, with the lower right triangle symbolizing the the frustration of someone with a non-compliant crankset.

      Best,
      Thor

      Reply
    2. Gerard Vroomen says:

      12 January 2021

      Hi Thorstein, sorry for the delay:

      1) You can find the general manual here: https://company.3t.bike/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/3T_Exploro_Strada_Manual.pdf. But for parts such as the brakes, you need to check the specs from SRAM or Shimano.
      2) Clearance required is 2mm between ring and chainstay.
      3) Sorry to hear that. Where did you put the carbon paste? It should to on the surface that contacts the post (and on the post, but the surfaces of the clamp that slide over each other should be greased, not carbon paste. The clamp can be taken up to 10Nm actually, the 8Nm is conservative. Should be OK then.

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        Thorstein says:

        18 May 2021

        Hello Gerard,

        Thank you for the reply. I have been loving the bike thus far, especially on long fast gravel rides in the 700c setup the bike is super stable over washboards and chunky Gravel. On single track the bike is so much fun with 55mm 650b tires and my hardtail is getting jealous.

        To 2) thanks! that allowed me to fit a 44T ring on a P2M power meter spider and I no longer run out of gears with a tailwind.

        3) The slipping seatpost issue is the only negative constant with this bike thus far every two weeks/1000 km it sags by a cm. I clean the whole seatpost first and then apply the friction paste to the area between the clamp and the seatpost, and at the back of the seatpost as these are the areas where the post is clamped and I want to increase friction. I have tested 4 different Carbon pastes and the one from Finish Line appears to be working best thus far (measured in sag/km). All of the “grippy” part of the seatpost wore off by now. I have ordered a new seatpost since they became available on the website and a new clamp hoping that the fresh start will help.

        Is this the correct use of the carbon friction paste? I also put grease on the threads of the bolt and on the angled surfaces of the wedge to decrease friction. This increases the clamping force for the same torque, I will go up from 8 to 10 Nm after this comment and hope it resolves the issue together with the new post.

        By backstop is basically a 2mm layer of electrical tape around the seatpost that prevents the post from slipping into the smaller hole. I will report back if it works. Thank you for the continuing support!

        Best,
        Thor

        Reply
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    Janne says:

    13 November 2020

    Can you fit Shimano compact crancset 50/34 on racemax frame?

    Reply
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      Austin says:

      27 December 2020

      yes, I run it now problem, however the largest tire width I can run in the back is 700x40mm, before it rubs the front mech

      Reply
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    Anthony Fischetti says:

    02 November 2020

    Hi again Gerard,
    Ok so i am building the Exploro Race with SRAM Force AXS 10-33 cassette, 48-35 crank, Wheels Mfg. 386EVO BB and when i install the crank onto the frame with the SRAM recommended spacers which is 2.5mm spacer on the drive side and none on the non drive side the crank bolts hit the frame. On the SRAM crank set installation instructions it show a 2.5mm for the drive side and none on the non drive side for the standard crank and 4.5mm drive side and 2.5 non drive side for the wide crank set up. when i put the 4.5mm on the drive side the crank bolts DO NOT hit the frame. Is this the necessary method for installing the crank? the crank arms are equal distance from the seat tube now so it seems correct. Just want to make sure.

    Thank You,
    Anthony Fischetti

    Reply
    1. Gerard Vroomen says:

      09 November 2020

      When you combine the SRAM crank with a non-SRAM BB, the spacer recommendations go out the window. That’s because the spacers take up the space between the outside-to-outside dimension of the BB bearings and the crank faces. A different BB means the bearings may be positioned slightly differently. Often the bearings on for example Wheels Mfg are a little further inward than on the SRAM. Hence you need more spacers.

      Whether you need more on both sides and how many, that’s something you need to figure out in individual situations. How many in total is determined by what it takes to get the play out of the system. How many on each side will determine if the crank is centered (for example measured from a water bottle bolt on downtube or seat tube, not from the chain stays if those are dropped as they could confuse measurements).

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        Anthony Fischetti says:

        12 November 2020

        Makes perfect sense
        Thank you

        BTW is there a set back seat post in the works?
        Thanks again

        Reply
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    Anthony Fischetti says:

    26 October 2020

    Hi Gerard, I bought an Exploro Race frame in size 54. this is my first gravel/road bike, all of my road bikes are between a 54 and 56. I compared the stack and reach but it is hard to compare due to the different geometry on the Exploro Race. if it makes it easier, I have a 2009 Cervelo R3 in a 56 that is pretty comfortable. my most comfortable bike is a 2010 size 55 Colnago EPS traditional top tube (non sloping) and this frame matches pretty good when put side by side.
    the only issue is I can not bring the seat post high enough to get the 74 1/2 CM from the top of the saddle to the BB center as all my bikes are set. I would have to raise the seat post where the min insertion line is out passed the seat tube.
    Should I exchange it for the 56 or is there a longer seat post option?

    Thank You,

    Anthony Fischetti

    Reply
    1. Gerard Vroomen says:

      27 October 2020

      Hi Anthony, if you have 20+mm of spacers under the stem of your R3 (or a very high top cover on the headset that results in the same thing), then I would definitely recommend the 56cm Racemax frame.

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        Anthony Fischetti says:

        27 October 2020

        Gerard,

        Yes I do have a high top cap and a spacer on the R3 which equals 20mm. So if I am correct my stem will be slammed or a small spacer on the Elxploro Race.
        So with that said are they able to exchange my frame if I pay for the shipping
        BTW the R3 is still one of my favorite bikes even after all these years

        Thank You,
        Anthony Fischetti

        Reply
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    Lee Kaliski says:

    02 October 2020

    Hi Gerard ….. am strongly considering a Race max as a classics inspired roadie having done the PR sportive 5 times and all the cobbled and Belgian classics, Tro Bro, Strade Bianche etc as well. About 5 years ago after a bike fit I had a carbon bike hand built by Marco Berliotti (Legend 9.5) which at the time was thinking ahead and had wider stays to accommodate up to (then) “outrageous” 30mm wide tires, a slightly longer rake etc. The frame has been everything I could have wanted, and is up to about 45k with no problems. However, at 57, the rider would nonetheless perhaps envisage a little bit more comfort for the next decade and would like to do events or rides like the Highland 500 and so on. Regards, Lee

    Reply
  13. Galen says:

    28 September 2020

    Love the continued iteration, Gerard and 3T! I’m assuming that an RTP frame-set option will still be coming, maybe just a bit later than mentioned in a response a few months ago? Thanks!

    Reply
    1. Gerard Vroomen says:

      28 September 2020

      Yes, we’re still catching up with demand.

      Reply
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    Mauro Brega says:

    24 September 2020

    Hi I am interested in the 3t Exploro race force asx 2x. In olive. I am about 167cm tall which size would I need. And your add says order now for a October delivery. Is that still the case

    Reply
    1. Gerard Vroomen says:

      25 September 2020

      hi Mauro, if you’re average height distribution (so not very long or short legs for example) then normally our size 51cm. Exact availability depends on which continent you’re on as we have separate warehouses, but in the order listing you will see if it is available: https://www.3t.bike/en/223-exploro-race?highlight=exploro-race-force-axs-2x. For example in Europe, I know they are assembling a whole batch in Italy today. But availability changes quickly due to high demand.

      Reply
  15. Simon says:

    08 September 2020

    Looks great, I’m very interested in a GRX 2X setup. Three questions:

    1) It’s mentioned in various places a FD compromises maximum tire clearance (makes sense), yet your GRX 2X “Max” build comes with the same WAM 58.3mm tires as its 1X siblings (very close the maximum spec WAM of 61mm) – does this mean Shimano moving the GRX chainset/FD etc outward slightly has gone some way to mitigate this problem?

    2) Are we likely to see a GRX 2X Di2 build available in the near future? Also, as above, does the GRX Di2 FD either improve or worsen tire clearance vs. mechanical GRX?

    3) Seems unfortunate to longer offer aero bar compatibility, especially given the aims and “marketing” (dare I use such a dirty word!) of this bike! I get how the flat profile bars are problematic for standard fit etc, however might we see some custom compatible 3T aero bars in the near future?

    Thanks.

    Reply
    1. Gerard Vroomen says:

      16 September 2020

      1) Thanks for catching that, that’s an error in the spec listing. The 2x bike actually comes with the Vittoria Barzo 2.1″, slightly narrower than the G-One.
      2) No, there won’t be a Di2 complete built bike. But of course your OPEN retailer can build it from a RaceMax frameset. I would suspect tire clearance is very close as it’s the cage that limits it for GRX (unlike SRAM where the battery is the limiting factor).
      3) I’m not a big fan of aerobars in gravel racing, if that is what you mean? Who knows what the future holds.

      Reply
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    Tomasz says:

    31 August 2020

    How about rear disc brake clearance on Neo 2T home trainer?
    I’m considering that frame as true N-1 to my stable, but it also requires some time on home trainer in winter.

    Reply
    1. Gerard Vroomen says:

      02 September 2020

      I don’t know the Neo 2T specifically, in general I have not seen any problem with disc brake clearance but if the Neo is particularly difficult in that regard, then you’d have to check, I don’t know.

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        Tomasz says:

        03 September 2020

        Thanks form promt reply! I appreciate it!

        Yes, some disc brakes bikes have a compatibility problem with Tacx Neo’s – to be precise with disc brake caliper distance from home trainer case. The case is somehow larger than e.g. Kickr or Elite home trainers.

        Would you be so kind and check it out?
        All the best! Stay safe!
        TR

        Reply
        1. Gerard Vroomen says:

          07 September 2020

          Hi Tomasz, I don’t have a Tacx Neo and don’t know anybody who does either. But the position of the brake caliper is fixed relative to the brake disc on the rear wheel. So if the rear dropouts are in a fixed position relative to the trainer (which they must be when the bike is mounted), then the caliper is always in the same position relatie to the trainer case regardless of the frame model (and the wheel model doesn’t have that much of an effect either, they are all pretty close in disc positioning).

          From what I have read, the calipers are always close to the Neo 2, but the trainer ships with a 2mm and/or 5mm spacer that makes sure there is no interference when properly installed. If for some reason it is not in the box (maybe they only started doing that at some point and you don’t have it), you can call Tacx tech support and they ship it out. But it seems like any washer will do the trick really.

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            Thomas says:

            08 September 2020

            Thank you.
            Is that spacer solution anyhow safe to the frame? Wouldn’t it add some dangerous stress to the frame by expanding it in that point?

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              Thomas says:

              08 September 2020

              I found that spacer on tacx site. It’s 2.7 mm.

              Just kind of thinking out loud – that spacer increases rear spacing to 144.7 mm. That definitely does not meet the 142 mm standard. Can it compromise frame integrity or is it safe in your opinion?

              Reply
              1. Gerard Vroomen says:

                09 September 2020

                I am not sure. The Neo2 is designed for standard road bikes, so 130mm cassette spacing. But thru-axle bikes use the 135mm cassette spacing (old mountain bike), so there is 5mm to spare. 135mm cassette spacing equates to the 142mm axle spacing you’re referring to. I presume that they have different end caps so that you’re moving the whole frame over a bit, not spreading the rear triangle by 2.7 or 5mm. But you’d have to ask Tacx/Garmin.

                Reply
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    Dave Hoover says:

    24 August 2020

    Hi there,
    I purchases the Exploro Pro Rival a few months ago and very quickly developed hip pain. I am not flexible in the hips! i come from mountain biking and did not fully realize just how aggtressive the Exploro geometry is, especially the stack height. I have changed the stem to 90mm with some rise, replaced the bars with shorter reach compact bars and am now adding 165 cranks to open my hips up. I have 2 questions: 1)Anything else that I can do to my existing bike to get more comfort? 2)Given all the changes to the RaceMax frame – what is the difference in stack height and would it be significantly more comfortable for the older, less flexible rider?
    I am 61 years old, 5′-9″ tall with a 30″ inseam and was directed be a salesperson to buy a large. I do ride a 56″ Trek Domane and ML Trek Fuel EX 9.9 moumtain bike. I have never had pain on these mre relaxed rides.

    Reply
    1. Gerard Vroomen says:

      25 August 2020

      Hi Dave, very hard to say without seeing you live on the bike. I would really recommend a proper bike fitting with a fitter that has a physio background. I’m not convinced that higher and higher is going to be the solution, especially since it is your hip that’s acting up.The RaceMax is slightly higher than the Exploro but again, I don’t think that is the route for your. I think it’s better to get to the root cause of this. It might be a combination of position and certain exercises that is the best solution, hence why I think a physic-oriented bike fitter would be good.

      Reply
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    binx says:

    16 August 2020

    Did you ever get a chance to run the Racemax in the wind tunnel? Also, some of the media articles previously mentioned various accessories coming out in connection with the racemax around August/September: any update on when to expect those?

    Reply
    1. Gerard Vroomen says:

      25 August 2020

      We’ve run the separate elements of the Racemax in the tunnel but never the complete final bike, as our tunnel test week got cancelled due to corona. They are only now starting back up but there’s a backlog, so not sure when we’ll go. Further accessories will start trickling in.

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    fabio giordana says:

    14 August 2020

    Buongiorno. questa bici è uno spettacolo. solo che io ho dei problemi di schiena. mi piacerebbe che fosse la mia futura bici. Il carro posteriore di questa bici è comodo e assorbe le vibrazioni e attutisce i colpi?

    Reply
    1. Gerard Vroomen says:

      25 August 2020

      Hi Fabio, even on a road bike with small tires, 50% of the comfort comes from tire flex. Once the tires are 40 or 60mm wide, they are such an overwhelming part of the comfort, much more important than anything you can do with the frame. Any frame is stiff relative to the tires, especially such big ones.

      Reply
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    fabio giordana says:

    14 August 2020

    Hi. The chariot absorbs vibrations or is rigid. I’m interested in knowing about the comfort of this model

    Reply
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    fabio giordana says:

    13 August 2020

    ho un ernia al disco lombare.. il carro di questa 3t assorbe gli urti e le vibrazioni. in pratica è comoda come tubazioni e carbonio?

    Reply
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    fabio giordana says:

    13 August 2020

    sono intenzionato a comprare questa 3t exploro racemax ma mi sono venuti dei dubbi. è il posto giusto per togliermi alcuni dubbi?

    Reply
    1. Gerard Vroomen says:

      25 August 2020

      Si, o direttamente: https://company.3t.bike/contact-us

      Reply
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    Braden Duffey says:

    08 August 2020

    How do you feel about this bike as a 80% road 20% gravel bike?

    Reply
    1. Gerard Vroomen says:

      10 August 2020

      Hi Braden, I feel very good about that! It is a great road bike, especially when you put the right size tire on. You can run it with 28mm tires, but when you have the tire clearance, you may as well go with a 32-35mm tire (we recommend a whole bunch here: https://blog.3t.bike/2020/06/14555/what-gravel-tire-do-i-need-gravel-bike-tech/). And as a bonus, such a bigger tire can also be used on moderate gravel so you may not even need a second tire.

      Reply
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    David Pastore says:

    29 July 2020

    Hi Gerard,

    I am 6’1″, essentially 185 cm, riding a Large OPEN UP which fits me nicely. Based on the measurements for the RaceMax, it looks like I fit between 56 and 58 frame. Do you typically recommend sizing down or up?

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      David Pastore says:

      30 July 2020

      Any assistance here?

      Reply
    2. Gerard Vroomen says:

      10 August 2020

      Hi David, sorry I was on vacation. The L is pretty much the 56cm, especially when you factor in the stack-reach interdependency. So if the L fits you well, you need the 56cm RaceMax.

      Reply
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        David Pastore says:

        10 August 2020

        No worries… and hope that you had a great vacation! I was leaning towards to the 56cm and appreciate the validation.

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    John says:

    24 July 2020

    I sold my S-works Tarmac SL3 last month. Now I’m looking for a new bike; a bit more upright endurance bike with the posibility of bigger tires. I also like the idea of getting off road with this bike but the main use is on the road.

    I love the new Eploro race set up very much but I’ve 1 main concern: is this bike as fast as a “regular” endurance bike riding on the road (like a Trek Domane SL7 for example)? Is the wheelbase/geometry suited for riding on the road?

    As you understand. I’m in doubt!!

    Reply
    1. Gerard Vroomen says:

      24 July 2020

      I don’t like to compare to other brands, but you have to keep in mind this is a full-on aero bike. So with the same tires/wheels, it will be faster than a non-aero endurance bike. Of course it’s not exactly as fast as an aero bike designed only for skinny tires (like a Strada) but in the field of endurance and gravel bikes the aerodynamics of the RaceMax stand out.

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    RiccardoG says:

    24 July 2020

    Hi Gerard…I recently discovered 3T brand and I remained astonished by its technology and engineering capability. I think I will soon get rid of my current gravel bike to get a 3T Racemax which is “definitively definitive”. I’ve a question: the race max with 700c rims is factory mounted with 35 mm and can host up to 42 mm WAM tyres. Is the speed/aero performance the same for both 35mm and 42mm on and off road? Can this setup with 35 mm tyre compete with a classical road bike? I’m asking this considering the fact that sometimes gravel lovers have to ride together with “road-friends” 🙂

    Reply
    1. Gerard Vroomen says:

      24 July 2020

      Hi Riccardo, you have to be a bit careful comparing those numbers, they are apples and oranges. “35mm” is the labeled width of the tire as indicated by the tire maker, so its WAM may already be something else (it won’t be 42mm but good chance it’s over 35mm on most rims, especially wider rims).

      How fast a tire is depends on the rolling resistance and the aerodynamics. Wider tires roll a bit lighter (all other things equal), while the aerodynamics depend on the combination with the wheels. If you use non-aero wheels, the 35mm tire will be faster than the 42mm tire (bigger frontal area and no “support” from the wheel). If you go with something like a Discus 45 | 40 LTD, the difference becomes a lot smaller, although the optimal tire aerodynamically is still one that is a tiny bit narrower than the rim.

      Bottomline, if you run a wide aero wheel with a 35mm road tire, this is a very fast road bike (and also capable of moderate gravel). Does that answer your question?

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        RiccardoG says:

        24 August 2020

        Hi Gerard, yes you did.
        But your answer aroused other questions:
        – my idea would be to start from a Racemax and get a pair of 650b wheels for more extreme experience. We talked about WAM, which is the actual measure width of the tyre, but what about the RAM expecially for 650b wheels with knobby MTB tyres? My main concern is the rear aero cutout of the frame: if the tyre is too fat, can this create problems with frame scratch if mud goes stuck? Visually speaking, it seems to me that standard Exploro Team has more “diametral room” if compared to race max frame.
        – has Racemax been tested on harsh and muddy condition with more knobbier tyre than Shwalbe G-One?
        – talking about aerodynamics benefit for example water bottle hidden behind down tub… does any chance exist to make all outer cables disappear inside the frame?

        Thank you again

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        1. Gerard Vroomen says:

          25 August 2020

          Hi Ricardo, the RAM would include the knobs. We have tested it also with full MTB tires, the shedding of mud is pretty similar (knobs that hold on to inches of mud lose their function, so most proper knob design avoids that). Of course there are places with incredibly stick mud, but all frames struggle with that.

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    Gustavo Rubio Olaya says:

    23 July 2020

    Me parece una bicicleta genial para recorrer la geografía de mi país.

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    Uli says:

    22 July 2020

    Hi Gerard, what would be your recommendation for road tires on the new wide Discus Wheels. Is it possible to use the new Schwalbe 30mm road tires (SCHWALBE Reifen Pro ONE 28 | 700 x 30C ADDIX Race EVO LiteSkin)? Thanks

    Reply
    1. Gerard Vroomen says:

      22 July 2020

      That tire is really more for the Discus 45 | 32 wheelset. On the Discus 45 | 40, any of these tires (from the first table) make sense: https://blog.3t.bike/2020/06/14555/what-gravel-tire-do-i-need-gravel-bike-tech/

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    Jon Austen says:

    15 July 2020

    I’m really interested in the Exploro Max bike but as I am getting on a bit with less strength than when I was younger, and looking at the size of the down tube I wonder if you have considered making an e-bike version of this bike? It would seem to me the Fazua motor system would work really well and provide the assistance I find I need for longer rides and steeper climbs. thanks, Jon

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    1. Gerard Vroomen says:

      22 July 2020

      We’re always thinking. Not sure the Fazua would match very well with our frame shapes, but you never know.

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    Andrei says:

    13 July 2020

    Hi Gerard,

    I have a question regarding geometry of the new racemax bike.

    From my understanding, you guys are positioning that bike as “exploration” even “multi day bikepacking adventure” and so on, however, when I’m looking on geometry specs, it looks like bike has pretty aggressive “race”, if you will, geometry.

    So, my question how the bike is actually rides? Is it more on endurance level or pure race machine or something in between?

    Thank you,

    Reply
    1. Gerard Vroomen says:

      22 July 2020

      It’s a performance gravel bike. So it is about getting through the terrain with some speed, this is not a “3 months in Mongolia” bike. Others make great bikes for that. But multi-day bike packing is certainly perfect. You can see a lot of bike packing trips with the Exploro PRO/TEAM/LTD here: https://blog.3t.bike/category/xpdtn3/. And the new RaceMax has a slightly higher geometry than that bike.

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    Johannes says:

    07 July 2020

    Really nice bike with super modern aero design and beautiful colors. Is it possible to purchase pre built bikes in the future? As for example the older model Exploro Pro Rival, Exploro Pro GRX and so on.

    Just in case if this will not happen and I have to build the bike by myself. Do I need to remove the bottom bracket to change the shift cable?

    Reply
    1. Gerard Vroomen says:

      22 July 2020

      Yes, there are already pre-built bikes shipping now (the RACE with SRAM Force AXS 1x & 2x and the MAX with SRAM Force/Eagle AXS). GRX bikes are shipping soon too and can already be pre-ordered.

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    Trent Reed says:

    07 July 2020

    Regarding custom paint, does the unpainted Exploro Race Max frame come with the decal kits for the smaller logos, name, designed by, etc. and vector files for the larger 3T logo?

    Reply
    1. Gerard Vroomen says:

      22 July 2020

      Hi Trent, since custom painters use their own decal systems, we don’t provide decals. But the custom painters get our files to make their decals (or masks in case they paint their decals).

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    Pooven says:

    07 July 2020

    Any new color coming up next? I prefer to wait if the white and red like the one in GCN show will be out.

    Reply
    1. Gerard Vroomen says:

      22 July 2020

      Yes, the red/white is coming in a few months.

      Reply
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    Oliver says:

    30 June 2020

    This is really late post, but hoping GV sees it. How well would the new Racemax do against the Strada in a draft legal road race? I was originally thinking of replacing my 2018 Cervelo S5 rim brake bike with a Strada Team Due, but now I’m wondering if a Racemax would do just as well and be more versatile? Would the GRX 2x gearing do well in most flat racing conditions?

    Reply
    1. Gerard Vroomen says:

      30 June 2020

      I see everything (or so I tell my daughter). Obviously for pure, nice smooth roads the Strada is the fastest option. It has a few shaping tricks that simply don’t make sense on a bike that also has to fit gravel tires. But the RaceMax is by far the fastest option for a bike that has that gravel tire clearance (and also faster than quite a few bikes that don’t have that clearance).

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        Oliver says:

        30 June 2020

        Thank you for the reply! I tell my daughters the same. So, I understand that the Strada is the fastest option, but would you say that comparing the Strada and Exploro Racemax is like comparing the Cervelo S5 and R5 in terms of aero advantage of the Strada over the Racemax? Are there any major weight or stiffness concerns between the two? Thank you again for your time!

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        1. Gerard Vroomen says:

          01 July 2020

          No, the delta is much smaller, the RaceMax is really fast. More S5 to S4. For weight and stiffness, there aren’t any huge differences.

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    Roberto says:

    21 June 2020

    Would be a pleasure if for casuality Sr. Vroomen would ask this question. Im thinking about buy the strada or the racemax and im in the first riders group on que video of the presentation, is the racemax with road setup slow on the road than the strada? Thank you so much for design this dreams.

    Reply
    1. Gerard Vroomen says:

      22 June 2020

      Obviously for pure, nice smooth roads the Strada is the fastest option. But the RaceMax is by far the fastest option for a bike that also has that tire clearance (and also faster than quite a few bikes that don’t have that clearance).

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    Jakob says:

    16 June 2020

    Hi Gerard, congrats on the new approach of the Exploro!
    One curious question came up, since I’m riding the Exploro LTD, I was wondering what happened to the LTD carbon layup in the RaceMax collection? Is there going to a LTD version?
    Greets Jakob

    Reply
    1. Gerard Vroomen says:

      18 June 2020

      The new RaceMax layup is sort of in-between the TEAM and the LTD. Right now we’re too busy with other projects to consider adding a new project.

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        Roberto says:

        21 June 2020

        new projects like a new strada could be?

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        1. Gerard Vroomen says:

          22 June 2020

          Too busy to consider a new Strada? Definitely. And on top of that, I cannot really think of a reason to change the Strada so it will remain as is for some time to come.

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    John van der Zeijde says:

    15 June 2020

    An Amazing bike,
    I was first planning to build a Exploro but with the new racemax i don,t know anymore.
    The Colours are not my taste, well Maybe if i see them in the flesh.
    I read that the Racemax will come in a rtp version as well in september?
    Are there sjabloons included for the logo,s if i let it paint in a preferred Color?
    Pls let me know!

    Great bikes,
    Finally a brand wich doesn,t follow the big hurde!,,,,,

    Greeting,s from The Hague (Netherlands)
    John van der Zeijde

    Reply
    1. Gerard Vroomen says:

      15 June 2020

      Goedemiddag John, RTP indeed available in September, and you can either have it painted by us (several options we will show soon and you choose the colors) or you can get it unpainted and have it painted yourself. If you want to have it painted yourself but in our design scheme, then we can work with your painter to get that right.

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    Niko Balla says:

    14 June 2020

    Hi, what a beautiful bike! Are you considering some sort of storage in the downtube in future models or Updates? Think this would be very nice for some Tools. or haribo 😛

    Reply
    1. Gerard Vroomen says:

      15 June 2020

      Hi Niko, I considered it, but my Haribo intake is so frequent, it’s just too much hassle putting them into the downtube. Seriously though, I like to keep the structural integrity of the downtube intact.

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    Luca says:

    13 June 2020

    Beautiful amazing bike.
    I believe that the bicycle is freedom and this bike allows you to go everywhere.
    Should be the perfect bike in “Arlecchino” painting!!!!!!
    Have you thought about continuing the “Arlecchino” painting ,in the name of Bergamo power, also with RACE and MAX?

    Please consider this option and reserve a bike for me!!!!

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    1. Rene Wiertz says:

      14 June 2020

      Hey Luca, thanks for your compliments. We can do the RaceMax also in Arlecchino painting, i will send you a DM for your bike!

      Reply
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    Roger Lindley says:

    13 June 2020

    A thing of beauty is a joy forever.

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    Alex says:

    11 June 2020

    Sorry if I missed it but is there internal routing for Di2?

    Reply
    1. Gerard Vroomen says:

      15 June 2020

      Hi Alex, the Fliptop on the toptube can be switched out for mechanical, Di2, eTap. So yes, you can also run Di2 if you would like.

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    Throwaway Bob says:

    09 June 2020

    Hey Gerard, another beautiful bike-pushing the sport forward, and sorry for the rant. Concerned over the brushing off of the 50×34 question. Does a Shimano DA or UL compact crank work on the new beast? There seems to be a cavalier attitude towards this question and those that ask it. So why is it so important to some? Well for me this bike would be my one bike; one i would ride nearly daily, train, race crits/RR, race major Gravel events like BWR and Kanza and even throw multi-day bike camping in there. This fits my understanding of a gravel; a road bike that you can get lost on. ‘Well get a bike for gravel and one for road’ not only can most simply not afford a different bike for each day, but defeats the idea of a gravel bike. The other place were there seems to be a mocking tone is the strength of the rider; i understand that larger tires increase in/cm per ration but just laughing off those who wish for a bigger gear by saying ‘well maybe if you were Cancellara you need that big of a gear’ is BS. i’m no phenom and my current 50-11 top gear there were plenty of times THiS week were i wish i had more: trying to catch group on down hill(seated spun-out over 1000w); downhill to flat sprint point in club ride(way less torque at that cadence); getting aero, arms on top-tube like tri, grinding it out with tail wind, but spinning to much for my best cadence; living at 110rpm is not for every body type. Compromise! The 50×34 is the compromise. The GRX 48×31 not only is the wrong gearing but 100g more than the 50×34 counterpart. ‘Well, what you want then is AXS’ the AXS while shinny, is inferior in every way: 2x the cost; a whole crank you have to replace every year, and what, not ride while you return yours to get a discount on a 1minute job for every other crank; and even the 10tooth is something like 6watts lost to friction over the 11,(‘now you just nitpicking’ no-all cyclist are nuts, thats why i want an aero-gravel bike); and you can forget bike-packing unless you want to spend a thousand dollars and carry a few extra pounds of batteries with all the extra space you have. While this seems like i hate you guys please don’t take it that way, i want this bike, i want it to be my only bike and the best bike. i think 3t and Gerard are at the forefront and i love cycling and a huge fan of the sport. Yes you guys made something beautiful and i’ve made nothing but if my rant matters it may in my narcissistic view give insight from one dude that wants the best for this culture. So will a DA/UL 50/34 work? And do you know what your most aero tire size for the new wheels. Thank you….

    Reply
    1. Gerard Vroomen says:

      13 June 2020

      Hi Bob, thanks for your feedback. No cavalier attitude at all. Anyway, since it’s a self-declared rant, let’s forget about that or the fact you don’t need to change your whole crank with SRAM (I presume you are referring to their power meter but not all of their cranks require that) or the cost (SRAM Red AXS is not twice the cost of DuraAce Di2 for example).

      Anyway, probably you’re most interested in the bottom line, which is that an Ultegra or DuraAce crank with 50-34T fits.

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    David Charlesworth says:

    06 June 2020

    Can’t seem to find a dealer in the United kingdom near where l live

    Reply
    1. Gerard Vroomen says:

      07 June 2020

      hi David, some distributors have been very conservative due to Covid and thus not placed orders yet. As a result, for example in the UK the RaceMax is only available through our online store.

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    ANdy Perrin says:

    06 June 2020

    Amazing bike, my thinking is to replace my Strada and 2015 exploro with the racemax that way i can run 2x and switch between 650B and 700C when i fancy. DOes that work?

    Reply
    1. Gerard Vroomen says:

      07 June 2020

      That’s what we intended it for!

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    Carl says:

    06 June 2020

    Whats is the price of that bike with the new Sram Force?

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      Carl says:

      06 June 2020

      Whats is the price of that bike with the new Sram Force? Also can you please tell me the sizes combinations of the cranksets and the cassettes? Also am using Sarm Red AXS now with 48/35 crank with 10-28 cassette, my question is, can I change cassette to new Sram Force 10-36 cassette? Sorry for this side question…

      Reply
      1. Gerard Vroomen says:

        07 June 2020

        hi Carl, prices are here: https://www.3t.bike/en/223-exploro-race?_ga=2.121478472.1318256729.1591534328-2083599218.1590577293.

        As for running a 10-36T cassette with the original “short cage” AXS rear derailleur, that’s explained here: https://blog.3t.bike/2020/05/14290/sram-force-axs-wide-gearing-hacks-gravel-bike-tech/

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  46. Brett Goulder says:

    06 June 2020

    Is there a concern with catching a rock with the tire so close to the seat tube cutout? Generally how much clearance between the frame and tire is considered safe when on gravel?

    Reply
    1. Gerard Vroomen says:

      07 June 2020

      No concern. There is a lot of experience with these sorts of clearances and if anything gets stuck in the tire it also sheds out of the tire.

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    Michiel says:

    05 June 2020

    When choosing a GRX 2x groupset, does the front derailleur limit the maximum tire width that can be used?

    Reply
    1. Gerard Vroomen says:

      07 June 2020

      For 700c, no. For 650b, a tiny bit. Depending slightly on the shape of the tire, but in general 57mm WAM instead of 61mm seems to work well.

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        Michiel says:

        11 June 2020

        Okay, thanks. If I am correct, the GRX front derailleur is especially designed for wider tires, but what about the Sram AXS front derailleurs? Do they limit tire width on the Exploro RaceMax to a larger degree?

        Reply
        1. Gerard Vroomen says:

          15 June 2020

          GRX and Force AXS WIDE are both designed to have more tire clearance for the front derailleur. This still means you cannot fit a 61mm WAM but you get into the mid-55’s. So for the most clearance it’s still 1x (obviously, no front derailleur has more clearance!). Going with regular Force AXS (or Red AXS, or Ultegra, or DuraAce) limits you more with the front derailleur.

          Of course there’s no free lunch, the more tire clearance is achieved by moving the crank out, so you also have a bigger Q-factor.

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        Benjamin Herkommer says:

        27 February 2022

        Hi, how about tire clearance in 650B with a force axs fd in place? I’m guessing somewhat around 50mm? Thank you

        Reply
        1. Gerard Vroomen says:

          04 March 2022

          Standard Force yes, Force WIDE around 55mm. but really depends also on the tire shape.

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    FRANCIS VERNIER says:

    04 June 2020

    y’a un petit air d’Open. Un air de famille.

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    Norman Sherlock says:

    04 June 2020

    Hi, how many colours will the bike come in?

    Thanks, Norman

    Reply
    1. Gerard Vroomen says:

      04 June 2020

      Right now it comes in the orange/grey and sand/olive. Due to popular demand, the red/white will be added in September/October.

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    massimo says:

    04 June 2020

    Sono strafelice possessore di Open UP e EXPLORO. Le adoro ambedue. Pratico, chi mi conosce lo sa, un gravel , vero, hard, duro, veloce, tecnico……..Ecco, mi dovete spiegare che senso ha parlare di aereodinamica!!!!!!! e on quei passaggi cosi scarsi, che rendono la bici bellissima ma allo stesso tempo limitatissima. Basta un poi’ di fango, un sassso incastrato nei tasselli della gomma, insomma spiegatemi come la si puo usare! Cmq da vedere sempre bellissima…….ma forse stiamo andando verso uno stile gravelbar o gravelsoft o gravelfashion??????

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    1. Gerard Vroomen says:

      04 June 2020

      Innanzitutto, usi frequentemente una bici da gravel per andare veloce, quindi l’aerodinamica è importante. Anche se vai lento perché stai pedalando controvento, stai sempre andando veloce rispetto al vento. Per quanto riguarda il fango, il telaio lo dissipa molto bene, quindi anche nei nostri test fangosi il passaggio rimane pulito e funziona a livello aerodinamico.

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        massimo says:

        09 June 2020

        I gravellisti piu’ veloci possono fare delle medie massime sui 30km/h, media talmente tanto “normale” che l’aereodinamica ha un’influenza bassissima. Inoltre come fa un telaio a “dissipare” il fango che e’ una cosa solida e non come il calore o il freddo? il fango non si puo’ dissipare!!!!!! Poi bisognerebbe vedere i vostri test fangosi come sono. Sulle mie Exploro e OPEN il tubo verticale in prossimita’ del passaggio ruota e’ segnato dai piccoli sassolini , ghiaia, terra, nonostante lo spazio sia ben piu’ ampio della nuova RACEMAX!!!!

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        1. Gerard Vroomen says:

          09 June 2020

          In realtà, i cavalieri di ghiaia più veloci hanno una MEDIA di oltre 30 km / h, quindi la loro velocità di crociera e massima è persino superiore. E l’aerodinamica funziona anche al di sotto di quella velocità, anche a velocità di arrampicata l’aerodinamica gioca un effetto come abbiamo dimostrato molto tempo fa (ad esempio che la penalità di peso di 200 g di un telaio stradale aerodinamico uniforma i benefici aerodinamici sull’Alpe d’Huez, una salita con una media grado dell’8%).

          Per quanto riguarda lo spargimento di fango, non dimenticare che il ritaglio è un divario costante, quindi tutto ciò che non arriva nella parte superiore non entra affatto. Questo in contrasto con la maggior parte dei tubi di sicurezza, in cui il divario con lo pneumatico è grande nella parte superiore e quindi diminuisce, consentendo in tal modo detriti più grandi di entrare e quindi rimanere bloccati. A parte le teorie, è un fatto semplice quando si guida su RaceMax che detriti e fango non sono un problema. Questo non significa che non c’è mai alcun fango che penetra, ovviamente c’è proprio come c’è su qualsiasi frame. Ma viene versato rapidamente a causa della forma del ritaglio.

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    Do you have a catalog on all your bikes please email me to let me know says:

    03 June 2020

    Do you you have a catalog on all your bikes please email me to let me know

    Erik berman
    6011 shadow lane
    Apt 12
    Citrus heights california 95621

    Reply
    1. Gerard Vroomen says:

      04 June 2020

      Hi Erik, we do not make a paper catalog anymore, sorry.

      Reply
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    Chad says:

    03 June 2020

    How would this do as a road racing machine?

    Reply
    1. Gerard Vroomen says:

      04 June 2020

      With a road tire, it IS a road racing machine. Especially with a 35mm tire it’s great.

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    Ranjit Vuyyuru says:

    03 June 2020

    Hi Gerard,
    I LOVE the look of the EXPLORO RACEMAX. I already have the Strada Due and it is by far the best road bike I have ever ridden. You have put me in a dilemma, I have to sell a bike to fund the new frame and project. A work of art and engineering, well done !

    Reply
    1. Gerard Vroomen says:

      04 June 2020

      Sorry!

      Reply
  54. Maciej says:

    03 June 2020

    Hi Gerard!

    Say you wanted to take your RaceMax on a road ride. What tires would you go with? What would work best in terms of speed and comfort?

    Reply
    1. Gerard Vroomen says:

      04 June 2020

      35mm, no question. Something like the Pirelli Cinturato Velo. There are also some other tires that are labeled smaller but would work, like the Continental 5000 TL in 32mm. If you put that on a modern rim with a wider inner width, that will balloon out to 34-35mm quickly.

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        Perjan says:

        22 July 2020

        Hi Gerard, I was actually looking at that tire for road. But then in the 28mm variant. In one of your earlier posts you said you’d still prefer the 35 because of better fit. is that because you think the aerodynamics is more important than the rolling resistance? Love the bike btw, cannot wait! BR Perjan

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        1. Gerard Vroomen says:

          22 July 2020

          My preference of “35mm” over “28mm” has mostly to do with 2 things:
          1) Most roads aren’t that great, even if paved, so extra comfort is nice
          2) Even if you’re on a “pure road ride”, you can come across little paths on the side of the road and wonder where they go. With a 35mm tire you’ll get further in finding that out than on a 28mm (although even with that you can get pretty far, I’ve done that for years).

          And you have the clearance, so why not. The third point specifically for bikes that are designed for 35-40mm tires, of course a 28mm tire fits, but it lowers the BB and reduces the fork trail, so you’re moving out of that intended geometry. Now, this is a very minor effect, and most people won’t notice, but 35-40mm is what we designed for.

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    Gastone Zamana says:

    03 June 2020

    Si può scrivere in italiano

    Reply
    1. Gerard Vroomen says:

      03 June 2020

      Si, assolutamente.

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    Francesco says:

    03 June 2020

    should I bring Cappuccino?
    Congrats for so long Q&A

    Reply
    1. Gerard Vroomen says:

      03 June 2020

      Tea please

      Reply
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    Francesco says:

    03 June 2020

    should I bring Cappuccino?
    Congrats for sooo long Q&A

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    Jeff says:

    03 June 2020

    I assume but wanted to be sure if I can run GRX Di2 with the frame ?

    Reply
    1. Gerard Vroomen says:

      03 June 2020

      Yes you can.

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    Michiel says:

    03 June 2020

    I am so excited about the new Exploro Race, I even told my wife about it!

    Question: The current Exploro GRX has a mixture ofcomponents from the GRX 800, 600, and 400 groupsets. It would be great if the new Exploro Race has solely GRX 800 (in 1x and 2x). I don’t mind paying extra for that. Could that be available as an upgrade for the new bikes?

    Reply
    1. Gerard Vroomen says:

      03 June 2020

      You can do that through our experience center, you can have anything you want. Either upgrade a few parts starting from a complete build or starting from scratch with a frameset. However, I wouldn’t do it. Some GRX parts have big differences between the levels, in other cases it feels forced, just to have 3 different levels and 3 prices but the parts are very similar. So we use a mix to get a combination that gives the best value for money.

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        Michiel says:

        05 June 2020

        Okay, many thanks for explaining how you pick the parts that go on the bike. Does this hold only for the GRX bikes, or also for the Sram specified bikes? I am sorry for posting this question twice. At first it did not appear, so I tried again.

        Reply
        1. Gerard Vroomen says:

          05 June 2020

          Hi Michiel, I always try to do the best possible spec of course. With SRAM, you see that for example in how we now use the WIDE rear derailleur & cassette on the new Exploro RACE but we do not use the WIDE front derailleur and crank (see here why: https://blog.3t.bike/2020/05/14264/gravel-bike-tech-new-force-axs-etap-for-gravel-sram-gravel/). Of course people can come to different conclusions, but the point is I always try to think about what combination is best for our specific purpose, rather than just doing what everybody is doing. Another example is that with the rear caliper we use two different bolt lengths. That allows us to shape the chain stay differently, but for some reason nobody else does that. Of course it’s easier to just make a straight chainstay and buy 2 identical bolts rather than 2 different ones, then as a bike company you don’t have to think about anything.

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    Michiel says:

    02 June 2020

    First: I’m blown away with great excitement.
    Second: even told my wife about it 🙂

    Then a whole lot of similar excitement remarks, and then finally a real question:
    -The current Exploro GRX has a mixture of components from the three Shimano GRX groupsets 800 (derrailleur), 600(shifters), 400(brakes). It was a bit of a surprise for me, and I wish there was a choice there, or just everything 800.
    It would be great if the new Exploro Race with GRX (either 1x or 2x) is solely GRX 800. Can you tell us what parts are used from the GRX series? I don’t mind paying extra to have it all 800 series.

    Reply
    1. Gerard Vroomen says:

      03 June 2020

      Why? What is so special about 800? We choose what we think is the best match after trying everything. In some cases, there are genuinely important differences between the levels, in other cases, it seems forced just to have 3 levels with barely anything different other than the price.

      Reply
  61. Brett Goulder says:

    02 June 2020

    I saw a few websites (like GCN) showing the new Exploro in a really cool metallic red/white combo. Is there a plan to release this? Also, any word on a full WIDE (not semi) group?

    Reply
    1. Gerard Vroomen says:

      03 June 2020

      That was an RTP frame but we’ve had a lot of positive comments so we’ll have that frame color available later this summer (Around September)

      Reply
    2. Gerard Vroomen says:

      03 June 2020

      As for the “full WIDE”, I love the WIDE rear derailleur and cassette but am not a fan of the WIDe front derailleur and crank as it blows up the Q-factor and is really not necessary. You can read more about that here: https://blog.3t.bike/2020/05/14264/gravel-bike-tech-new-force-axs-etap-for-gravel-sram-gravel/

      Reply
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    tadaka says:

    02 June 2020

    Great 12hr marathon! Just following up on the question about the max chainring size on the new RaceMax. The old Exploro could fit a 50/34 as the max chainring. Can you do the same or a bigger (52/36) on the new RaceMax? or are you only able to fit smaller chainrings when doing a 2x setup.

    Reply
    1. Gerard Vroomen says:

      03 June 2020

      Hi Tadaka, there are now other ways to get that big top gear, you don’t need a 50T or 52T, you can go with a 10T cog in the rear and get a big top gear with a 46T chainring. That said, a 50T or 52T top gear is overkill for almost every rider out there. Keep in mind that your tire circumference is already bigger because of the bigger tire. Putting a 52T chainring on with even a modest gravel tire gives you more forward movement per crank rotation than Chris Froome. Who needs that? On gravel?

      Reply
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    Matteo says:

    02 June 2020

    The bike is beautiful, and also the technical news are interesting upgrades.

    I see the actual Exploro is remaining in the product range.

    I would like to better understand how the 2 Exploro can fit together, since the new Exploro Racemax seems to do everything the “old one” does, but better.

    Thanks

    Reply
    1. Gerard Vroomen says:

      03 June 2020

      Well, one big difference is price. Both due to the frame and some specs, the Exploro PRO starts at 2999. The Exploro RACE and Exploro MAX start at 4199.

      Reply
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        Matteo says:

        03 June 2020

        Sure, this is right for the entry level of each segment, because when it comes to the high end model, also the price positioning is very close (i.e. Exploro Team Force/Eagle Etap and Exploro Max Eagle Axs).

        What’s really differentiating the 2 bikes, in terms of destination of use and type of rider?

        Thanks

        Reply
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    Jesper says:

    02 June 2020

    That looks seriosly cool. Eventhough it makes my newly aquired Explore Team frame seem old, even before I get to build it up. But…. _I think i need a RaceMax version too 🙂 – anyway very nice detail with the Barrachi understatedly lurking in the background.

    Reply
    1. Gerard Vroomen says:

      03 June 2020

      The Exploro Team is still an amazing bike. In the end, it will allow you to get on some amazing rides and that’s all that matters.

      Reply
      1. j

        jesper says:

        06 June 2020

        Indeed it is. Actually I intended to supplement it with a Strada Due. But maybe I will wait for the Racemax instead. It appeals more to me 🙂

        Reply
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    Stefano says:

    02 June 2020

    I owned an Exploro LTD, I am very disappointed because I was expecting a Max build on the same concept you explain but on a 700 and not a 650….? Just a personal taste… We meet at the first Jeroboam 300 in Italy, which I had the honor to shake your hands..

    Reply
    1. Gerard Vroomen says:

      03 June 2020

      Hi Stefano, we have that, it’s just called the RACE setup. RaceMax frame = RACE & MAX, you choose.

      Reply
      1. S

        Stefano says:

        03 June 2020

        You can put a 2.25 tire or more (like Cutthroath 2.4) on a 700rim?thanks

        Reply
        1. Gerard Vroomen says:

          04 June 2020

          No, that’s a completely different bike. Much higher riding position, much longer chain stays and wheel base. The Cutthroat is a great bike, but nobody will say it handles like a road racing machine. The Cutthroat is around 10cm longer than a RaceMax (and it has to be as the wheels are so much bigger in diameter than road wheels that you need more space for toe clearance and for seat tube clearance.

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  66. J

    Jason Brown says:

    02 June 2020

    This is absolutely awesome. How easy would it be to get this in the same black stealth as the Exploro LTD? If easy, sign me up…..for my 4th 3T in my stable.

    Reply
    1. Gerard Vroomen says:

      03 June 2020

      Hi Jason, once we have RTP frames (around September), you can have anything you want.

      Reply
  67. H

    Hans says:

    02 June 2020

    Would it be more aero to use my current aero road wheels with 28c or would it be better to use bigger tyres to have a smaller frame gap? My wheel set is 21mm internal/31mm external.

    Reply
    1. Gerard Vroomen says:

      03 June 2020

      Hi Hans, I’d go with the bigger tires. Closer gap to the frame, more comfort, better matching the width of the frame. Win-win-win.

      Reply
  68. Bernd says:

    02 June 2020

    Regarding tires & brands? Did you already had a look at the Rene Herse (or others) tires and didn’t like them for any specific reason or didn’t considered them (yet)?

    Reply
    1. Gerard Vroomen says:

      03 June 2020

      Hi Bernd, we are definitely aware of the Rene Herse tires and quite like some of them. You’ll be seeing more tires added to our list as time progresses.

      Reply
      1. Bernd says:

        04 June 2020

        👍

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        jt says:

        19 June 2020

        Would like to see you try the Conti Terra Speeds in 35 and 40 nominal width.

        Reply
        1. Gerard Vroomen says:

          22 June 2020

          I would too. Only so many hours in a day.

          Reply
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    Fran Sergio says:

    02 June 2020

    Do you think UCI will make Gravel segment
    professional like road race?

    Reply
    1. Gerard Vroomen says:

      03 June 2020

      They will certainly try!

      Reply
  70. M

    Mark Spencer says:

    02 June 2020

    The bike looks fantastic! Chapeau!

    Reply
    1. Gerard Vroomen says:

      03 June 2020

      Thanks Mark!

      Reply
  71. A

    Anders Hansen says:

    02 June 2020

    Wow. That 2009 Cervelo looks awesome, went straight to the classifieds to see if I could find one second-hand 🙂

    Reply
    1. Gerard Vroomen says:

      02 June 2020

      Not unless I put it there. We made a dozen or so across all the sizes, I tool Thor’s after the race. Not sure where the others are (but I do have his 2010 bike as well and the one that won in 2011). But those are not in the classifieds!

      Reply
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        Anders Hansen says:

        03 June 2020

        Haha! I love my Exploro, just a fantastic bike that can do everything and always brings a smile to my face, but would be fun to find an older road (or cx) with a bit of tyre clearance, just for messing around and having fun. It’s all about exploration 🙂

        Reply
  72. B

    Bruno says:

    02 June 2020

    Can you tell me more about the proprietary headset? I don’t like proprietary formats, I puts me a bit aside… Will I be able to use a standard headset?
    Just thinking about the future…

    Reply
    1. Gerard Vroomen says:

      02 June 2020

      We’re thinking about the future as well, and I think this is it. It’s custom in that we asked Cane Creek to make it, so it comes from the best and I am sure this style will become quite popular because it offers such obvious advantages. The only drawback is that it’s expensive (because it uses more and smaller balls than a regular 1.5″ headset), so it won’t be popular with mainstream brands but I think plenty of others will pick it up. And I would expect other bearing makers to do the same.

      The frame fits a 1 1/4″ headset in the bottom, no problem, but then you also need to use a fork that is 1 1/4″ because it obviously wouldn’t fit a 1.5″ steerer inside a standard 1 1/4″ headset bearing.

      Reply
  73. J

    Joe says:

    02 June 2020

    The sizing seems to be skewed towards the bigger sizes (185cm -> 58cm frame with a huge 586cm top tube and seat angle of only 72.5 or 51cm frame with a max suggested body height of only 167cm).
    The reach though is adequate…what would you suggest for someone of 185cm? I would personally tend towards the smaller 56 size? Or is the long top tube offset bei the zero offset seatpost?

    Reply
    1. Gerard Vroomen says:

      02 June 2020

      This is why toptube is such an inaccurate way to define a frame. Slackening the seattube to have a zero-offset seatpost will not change your fit at all, but it will lengthen the toptube. If you look at the stack & reach you will see it’s quite normally distributed. The body heights are just an indication, obviously if you can size by stack & reach based on current position, that is the way to go.

      Reply
  74. J

    Jay says:

    02 June 2020

    I didn’t even get to unbox my new Open Wi.de…

    I hate you.

    Reply
    1. Mathias says:

      08 June 2020

      Haha, same here. I’ve ridden my WI.DE. Since February and love it for what it is. But dang, the RaceMax would have been the bike I should have bought. Now thinking if I should get a RaceMax in addition or replace my WI.DE….

      Reply
  75. M

    Matthew Krivosudsky says:

    01 June 2020

    What is the max 2x chainring size? 50/34?

    Reply
    1. Gerard Vroomen says:

      02 June 2020

      SRAM AXS 43-30T, 46-33T and 48-35T fit as well as GRX 46-30T and 48-31T. Whether 50-34T fits depends. I know people always want a yes or no answer but there is none. Because nowadays chainlines are all over the map with manufacturers, and obviously if you move the chainring outward, they can be bigger. Hence the SRAM AXS and GRX info as those are tested and will be the most common.

      Reply
      1. b

        binx says:

        15 June 2020

        Will 46t Sram axs 1x chainrings fit?

        Reply
        1. Gerard Vroomen says:

          22 June 2020

          Hi Binx, no, but 46×10 would be a huge gear. SRAM chainline is pretty narrow, so that limits the chainring size as well, but if you go to a bigger chainline crank it would work.

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            Binx says:

            23 June 2020

            Just discovered Shimano has a 10-45, 12-speed XTR cassette. How well would that work with the Eagle derailleur?

            Reply
            1. Gerard Vroomen says:

              24 June 2020

              Unfortunately the cog spacing of XTR and Eagle is not the same, 3.55mm vs 3.65mm.

              Reply
  76. C

    Christian says:

    01 June 2020

    Gerard, I wonder how they compare to the Open WIDE?

    Reply
    1. Gerard Vroomen says:

      02 June 2020

      I’m the wrong person to ask, very different bikes. I like both.

      Reply
      1. C

        Christian says:

        03 June 2020

        Haha! If one person knows about it, it must be you…
        I see the difference concerning aerodynamics and speed.
        But what about geometry, agilty, handling, stabilty on the road, and comfort on challenging terrain?

        Reply
  77. DrNeil says:

    01 June 2020

    Gerard – just so you know, I called it last year; I commented on this very blog suggesting a mix of Strada and Exploro, I’m just so disappointed you didn’t go with the name “Stradoro” as suggested!

    I’ll expect my thank you bike in the post (ha ha) – anyway, couldn’t have that, it would make my Strada jealous!

    But you have done it again, looks amazing, and can’t wait to see one in the flesh. Gorgeous bike, closest thing yet I’ve seen to the true “one bike to rule them all”; I hate the terms gravel bike or adventure bike or all-road bike – this just looks like “one bike” (one awesome bike at that) for whatever you want to do. You know, like when we were all kids and just rode on every surface, and didn’t care for labels.

    3T does it again!

    Reply
    1. Gerard Vroomen says:

      02 June 2020

      Strangely enough I’m not disappointed at all that we passed on the name Stradoro. It was a distant third after RaceMax and Explada (you know from the song Expla-di, Expla-da, Life goes o-on)

      Reply
  78. N

    Nicola says:

    01 June 2020

    Will it be possible to install a Stages left crank power meter? To do so a minimum of 10 mm clearance among the left crank arm inner face and the chainstay is necessary. Thanks! Great bike by the way!

    Reply
    1. Gerard Vroomen says:

      02 June 2020

      Hi Nicola, probably not but Stages is one brand where we cannot give proper information because they don’t share the basic tech info that most other power meter brands do. So we don’t know.

      Pod-based systems are slowly disappearing anyway, especially for gravel. People start to realize that you can’t really afford to give up all that space. It’s a shame to add 10mm to the crank clearance that could have gone to tire clearance. And just so that people can maybe install a power meter that has a pod. Of course that doesn’t help people who already have a pod-based system, I realize that.

      Reply
  79. O

    Oscar says:

    01 June 2020

    What about weight for a size 56 Exploro Max GRX 1x? That bike looks exciting to ride!! I’ve been looking for quite some time the Exploro bikes and now this one comes out… Awesome!!

    Reply
    1. Gerard Vroomen says:

      02 June 2020

      I think Bikeradar (I could be wrong, I’m sleep-deprived) wrote their GRX 1x was 8.7kg. But probably a 58cm that one.

      Reply
  80. E

    Ez says:

    01 June 2020

    Is it comfy as well? Now im going to have to sell my not yet arrived Exploro lol

    Reply
    1. Gerard Vroomen says:

      01 June 2020

      Well, most bikes with 35mm or bigger tires are. Unless you pump them up too hard of course.

      Reply
  81. C

    Christian Borrman says:

    01 June 2020

    This is exactly what I wanted! its the perfect blend of Strada and Exploro!

    Reply
    1. Gerard Vroomen says:

      01 June 2020

      With a pinch of monster truck thrown in for good measure! Glad you like it.

      Reply
  82. B

    Binx says:

    01 June 2020

    This looks like so much fun. What I appreciate more than anything is Gerard’s obvious enthusiasm for the bike on the Tech Briefing video. He’s clearly smitten with the bike and put a lot of thought and love into the design–that’s refreshing. Congratulations on the release.

    Reply
    1. Gerard Vroomen says:

      01 June 2020

      Thanks Binx. It’s easy to get excited about bikes 🙂

      Reply
      1. B

        Binx says:

        04 June 2020

        Struggling on the gearing choice between (i) 46/33×10-36 AXS, and (ii) the 1x AXS with a 46Tx10-50 drivetrain. The 40Tx10-42 11-sp mechanical works well now on gravel, and the 46×10-50 AXS has almost the same gearing, plus more range. Just wondering though if I’d notice the cassette jumps from 10-12-14 a lot more because this frame would see lots more road time than the old gravel bike. Hard to imagine though that a front derailleur and etap battery are a good idea for actual gravel and mud conditions.

        Reply
        1. Gerard Vroomen says:

          05 June 2020

          To me, 10-50T is too much range for most people (10-42 or 11-42 is perfect). You could consider going with the ROTOR 11-46T cassette, that’s the same range as the 10-42T) and 12-speed.

          Reply
  83. Y

    Yedidya Mahalo says:

    01 June 2020

    Want it for my birthday supraise!

    Reply
    1. Gerard Vroomen says:

      01 June 2020

      Dang, now we’ve ruined the surprise!

      Reply
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